Hello Everybody,
last week we were at the Grevelinger Meer, Brouwershaven, in the Netherlands.
On a nice, sunny and not too windy (2-3 Bft) day i exercized a capsize.
I must admit that i was a little shocked
about my difficulties with rightening and getting into the boat again.
I couldn´t manage to get on the daggerboard while the boat was capsizing,
as is nearly always possible on dinghies like the Laser or Vaurien where you can capsize
and righten the boat withot even touching the water..
The boat was upside down within a few seconds. When i tried to get onto the hull,
the boat turned to the side rapidly (my weight is 100 Kg).
When the boat was finally rightened by puling the sword from within the water,
i couldn´t get in. Luckily there was a motorboat nearby on standby to help me.
I don´t want to imagine that the same thing could have happened on the Elbe river
shipping lane, with a giant container ship on collision course.
So I hope that you have good advice for me how to righten and get into the boat safe and fast,
as i think should be possible with every sword boat.
As long as i haven´t exercized this successfully,
i don´t dare to go out again in more than 4 Bft.
Greetings from Hamburg
David Cooper
Mon, 05/30/2016 - 19:39
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Lots of practice required
It is possible to stay dry when capsizing a Mirror, but if you realise you're reacting too slowly to get over the top in time it's better not to try as that makes it more likely for the hull to turn upside down. It's also extremely hard to get back in after righting the boat if you're sailing alone - it's easy if you have a crew as you can help each other get in, but when you're sailing alone you need to add a piece of rope at the stern with a loop or rung on it to use as a step, and even using that is hard, requiring good technique which you'll only gain through experimentation and practice, so you need to do that in a safe place and with a rescue boat nearby. You could also experiment with a masthead float which may enable you to climb over the top even if you're slow, and then you can try getting back in as the boat comes back up, but that too takes practice as it whips upright suddenly and you have to react fast.
62816inBerlin
Sun, 06/05/2016 - 14:02
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Turtling question
As "elbsegler" described, his boat was apparently totally turtled. I have also seen pictures of Mirrors totally upside down in regatta albums (World championships etc.) and am a bit puzzled. Shouldn't the gaff have enough buoyancy to at least slow down turtling considerably?
In the last 30 years, I capsized "Puffin" twice. On both occasions, she stayed on her side until we/I could right her. When I learned to sail, I was taught that one should try to pull the stern so that the bow faces into the wind before righting the boat. This means that once the sail is raised out of the water a bit, the wind actually helps you to right the boat. This tactic worked for me on both occasions. The first time it happened, my (then) 8-year old son was with me and his shoes, which were in the front stowage space on the side that was down in the water, didn't even get wet. I helped him to board the boat over the stern as she came up, which meant that a lot of water drained out of the transom holes. I then pulled myself up over the transom as well. We didn't have to bail too much water out after climbing aboard. I did lose my Greek fishing-boat skipper's cap in the process, though.
The second capsize, about 24 years later, is described on pages 15 and 16 of my 2012 cruise report http://mirrordiscussforum.org/documents/stories/jf2012english.pdf . I was wearing a padded sailing parka with the PFD over it at the time, so re-boarding was not so easy and I had to use my stern mooring line as a "stirrup" to get aboard. There was a bag with some clothes and other gear on the boat so she was heavier and had more water in the cockpit after being righted and quite a lot of water drained out of my jacket after I was back aboard. All the same, I only needed to bail less than a bucketful of water out (my on-board bucket is a ten-litre cheap plastic bucket).
@ Elbsegler: I think I'll try letting the boat lie on its side this year to see how much buoyancy the gaff provides and how much additional buoyancy is needed to prevent turtling.
OR has anyone else here already carried out such tests and can provide the answers here?
mirrorpete
Sun, 06/05/2016 - 14:28
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Turtling
About 25 years ago, during a regatta, a very strong gusty wind came up and I dumped, and turtled. Apparently my gaff did not prevent the turtle. Our rescue boat came to help and when I got it up right it turtled again. This happened three times. The fellow in the rescue boat decided to call the maneuver the Kaiser roll.
On each occasion I had a terrible time putting my Mirror upright and keeping it there. There were two problems, one of my own making. I neglected to un-cleat my jib sheet, hence the three rolls even though I turned the bow into the wind. It must have been a very shifty, gusty wind. The second problem was that I was in somewhat shallow water and the top of my gaff got stuck in the bottom of the lake making it difficult to bring the Mirror upright. I ended up with a severely bent burgie.
Pete Kaiser
PuffinInTegel
Sun, 06/05/2016 - 14:56
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Take down the burgie next time!
Hello Pete,
shallow water is indeed a problem. Inland sailing with shifting winds is also problematic -- led to my first capsize.
I remember helping a couple to right a Shearwater catamaran stuck in about 4 feet of water on top of an oozy mud bottom. I stood near the mast-top and whenever I but additional weight by lifting the sail, I sank deeper into the ooze. After the boat was righted, they had to literally pull me out of the mud or else I'd have been left there to starve =:-{o .
@Elbsegler: If you look at the various "Jollenflottille" videos and reports, you may notice we have foam-filled "Moorhühner" on board. These are meant as mascots that can be tied to the sail head as floatation in strong-wind conditions, although mine tends to end up tied to the foot of the jib as a "figurehead".
Cheers,
Gernot
David Cooper
Sun, 06/05/2016 - 17:02
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Next to no gaff buoyancy
The gaff only floats with a tiny percentage above the surface, so it isn't going to stop the boat inverting - it must be the top of the mainsail that does that. I know a couple of people who found they could walk around on the mainsail of their Wayfarer during a capsize because the water held it up so well.
62816inBerlin
Tue, 06/07/2016 - 14:15
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David's probably right
Come to thing of it, the centreline of a capsized Mirror is fairly high above the water surface, so only the upper end of the gaff would be in the water and the hollow mast almost completely clear of the water, so not contributing to stability. Dinghies without side floatation tanks would tend to float with the keel and mast almost at water level and remain stable if the mast has positive buoyancy.
After capsizing, I was too busy getting the boat righted to think about or observe these questions. Perhaps my boat stayed on its side fairly well because it was blowing fairly strongly on both occasions, so that there was probably a cushion of air trapped under the mainsail too.
Gernot H.
David Cooper
Tue, 06/07/2016 - 17:39
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It may be about drag
With the angle of the mast to the water, any air under the sail should easily be pushed out hullwards rather than being trapped. In many Mirror capsizes they do seem to float well on their side, so I think what's happening must be that it takes a lot of force to drag the sail down through the water (unless it's aligned at a steep angle, as in a capsize to windward during a run), so the speed of the capsize will likely be important to provide sufficient force to power it on over. If the top of the mast can get to a certain depth, the hull will then generate more force against it to turn upside down, so there's probably only a very narrow range of angles in which it's stable on its side. If you climb up the hull as it tips over and stay clinging on high up once it's on its side, you'll help to pull it on over, so if you don't think you can make it over the top onto the daggerboard it may be best to let yourself fall into the water sooner rather than trying to delay it.
62816inBerlin
Thu, 06/09/2016 - 14:19
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daggerboard
My capsize during the gybe may have been due to the slack boom kicker catching on the board, which I'd taken up almost all the way running downwind. After I was in the drink, I realised to my dismay that there was no board sticking out of the bottom and had to swim around the stern an push the board in (my CB has a very snug fit) before being able to hang onto it. I used the jibsheet to give me exra leverage (the boat being cat-rigged at the time). All this must have taken a few minutes, so the mast obviously had stayed fairly horizontal for a while.
Gernot H.
David Cooper
Thu, 06/09/2016 - 17:53
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Weight distribution and tank location
When the boat's on its side, there may be a fairly even distribution of weight over the part the hull's floating on, though it must have some bias towards turning the boat on upside down or it would right itself easily. Something's clearly acting to stop it turning on over, and I think the sail can only have a role in slowing the process: it can't be the whole story as it should still slowly sink lower over time, so perhaps the little buoyancy of the gaff does have a key role in holding a boat on its side, but it's only able to do so if the sail hitting the water halts the capsize quickly enough.
When my rudder ripped out (while planing on a broad reach) during a race at Findhorn, it powered the Mirror into a rapid capsize (because the pintle ripped out of the hull at one side only), but the boat stopped on its side. I didn't want to right it as I didn't think I'd be able to steer safely without a rudder in that strong breeze, but we happened to be near shore and drifting in towards a stony beach between two piers and I reckoned it would be safest just to land there before trying to right the boat. We ended up carrying the boat up a bank and taking it back to the dingy park before reattaching the pintle. Anyway, there was no indication that the boat was tipping any further over time as we drifted in, so it remained very stable on its side for a good few minutes. The wind wasn't helping hold it up either as it was pushing from the wrong side.
I'm now wondering if pulling in the mainsheet or directly pulling on the boom as you capsize would help stop the boat turning turtle by ensuring the top of the sail hits the water more flat.